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Option of choosing electric cooking systems for moving away from propane. This is already happening slowly in aftermarket, people are moving away from propane based systems, why not give us the option of selecting an induction cooktop and electric oven/microwave/broiler instead of the regular propane stuff.

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KST
June 26, 2022
I consider induction cooking to be an important innovation because it is also relevant to safety. Burns and fires on board become less likely.
In addition, the expense of procuring propane gas is completely eliminated.
The compatibility problems of the bottles and connections in different regions of the world will then be a thing of the past!
An important selling point for an Excess catamaran, in my opinion! :-)
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Enjoy catamaran
June 18, 2022
L’intérêt du gaz, il me semble c’est le gain de poids et la fiabilité: vues les puissances nécessaires pour les plaques induction (et vitro) c’est dommage si il faut ajouter un groupe électrogène (bruit, entretien, volume, poids...) pour pouvoir cuisiner ?
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Christophe DENIS
June 10, 2022
Je pense qu'une option incluant plaque induction et four multifonction (grill + micro-ondes) devrait aussi inclure un parc conséquent de batteries LifePo + système de rechange ad'hoc. Dans ce cas je pense que cette option devrait intéresser un nombre plus important de futurs acquéreurs. Beaucoup d'entre nous upgradons nos bateaux pour avoir une installation électrique plus performante. Ce serait plus écologique d'avoir une option que de modifier et jeter du matériel neuf...
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Christophe DENIS
June 6, 2022
Excellente idée !!! Pour notre prochain bateau c'est une demande non négociable de mon épouse!!!
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Hiroshi Hamada
May 17, 2022
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Hiroshi Hamada
May 17, 2022
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thierry van doninck
May 17, 2022
Hello,

I think the move towards electrical systems is out there. Especially amongst the lifeaboard cruisers. Having to remove the gas system from a brand new boat and replacing it with electrical could be the difference between buying and not buying. As I hate the garbage can with a vengance as well.

Kind regards
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Sail Tahiti
May 16, 2022
Hello everyone. This could be a very interesting option and we have studied it with one of our client. The main advantages on top of the comfort you get with induction cooking is that you get rid of the gaz bottles. These tend to rust, they are heavy to carry and dangerous. Yet it requires significant investment as you need a large lithium battery pack and a very powerful inverter...if you make that investment for other reasons (weight saving and ease of use for lithium) then it can make sense to add the induction stove...
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arvkv
May 16, 2022
Hi Thibaut, A significant amount of cruisers would be open to moving to an electric galley. This does require moving to Lithium-ion + Solar but that is not something that needs to be offered by the yard. Only change needed is perhaps an upgraded 3000w inverter instead of the regular 2000w. In the Excess owners forum I already saw a few people replacing the brand new gas system with electric and I would be open to this as well.
Example of Bosch induction plate on excess 11. https://tinyurl.com/23cj6raw
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Ruppmic
May 16, 2022
Hi Thibaut, Also we are looking for a electric cooking option. Of course this needs Lithium batteries and some solar or Generator. We believe this is quite standard for a cruising catamaran these days. We would hate to take out the brand new factory offered Gas solution after delivery.
When it comes to the ‘pick up rate’, I guess this largely depends on your target market. Charter companies will probably avoid the additional cost. Live aboards might be more open.

Best,

Michael
Thibaut
Thibaut
May 16, 2022
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Hello Arvkv,

Indeed we have a few clients who chose to install electric cooking systems on board their Excess catamarans. This requires to add power in terms of additional batteries, a genset and/or solar panels. And obviously leads to incremental costs.

Today, at Excess we offer a microwave option but no other electric cooking appliances.
I am open to add more options in principle, but when doing so we need to be sure that a fair number of our clients do chose these options. We call this the 'take-rate', and we typically need at least 20% to 30% of our boats fitted with the options offered on our pricelist.

My feeling is that we would not get enough clients chosing induction cooktop or other electric to reach a minimum take-rate. But I may be wrong and am therefore very interested to know what kind of demand there is out-there for such options!

To all Lab Members: please let us know, through posting a comment here, if you would be keen to purchase an electric cooking options (if so, which one) when ordering one of our boat.

Thanks.
Thibaut
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Alan O Reilly
May 16, 2022
I would be interested but obviously price would be important
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john
May 16, 2022
All electric is more sustainable, safer, and allows more independence but would require an integrated system. Besides more solar and upgraded Li batteries, replacement of a genset with charging alternators and hydropower would be helpful. These systems are slowly making their way into the market and I’d like to see Excess be part of the movement.
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Franciscoxpl@gmail.com
May 18, 2022
If Excess is aiming for the high end/ high tech consumer and willing to offer more comfort and safety for them, electric cooking is a major and very desirable upgrade, and installing at the yard will surelly be better and less expensive. Life onboard is so much better with this option!
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KST
June 26, 2022
It depends on TCO , how many owners would choose that option.
You get a lot of advantages for the money:
- no more bottles/rust/ refill efforts/gas costs / compatibilty problems / open and close the bottle
- more safety (burns / explosions / injures)
Compared to the overall price of the boat this should be worth additional costs of up to 5.000 EUR.
And probably brings you a unique selling point for Excess Catamarans !
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Roberto
July 1, 2022
Hi, in our new 14 excess we would really consider to built a electric boat: engines, coking, air con , lithium batteries etc. Charging system like gen set and solar panels. I am sure that Excess will prepare a full electric integrated system for us. I think that sailors that choose a cat are eco/silent/more power independent as possible.
Am I wrong? More money today, more happy for years to come!
Roberto