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Appareils de cuisson électrique à bord

Possibilité de choisir des appareils de cuisson électrique pour s'éloigner du propane. Pourquoi ne pas nous donner la possibilité de choisir une table de cuisson à induction et un four/micro-ondes/gril électrique au lieu des systèmes au propane habituels ?

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François
21 décembre 2022
Bonjour,
Je suis également intéressé par une plaque à induction avec un combiné four/four micro-onde. Une solution qui pourrait être envisagée serait d’avoir l’option de supprimer tout simplement l’installation au gaz et de laisser au futur propriétaire le soin d’installer les appareils qu’il souhaite et d’upgrader par la même occasion la puissance de l’installation électrique. Ça aurait l’avantage d’éviter le gaspillage.
Claire - The Excess Team
Claire - The Excess Team
20 décembre 2022
Thank you all for your contributions! We're making progress on these topics, we'll keep you in touch soon!
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KelleyP
14 décembre 2022
Hello
We would definitely be interested in an induction cooktop to eliminate gas for safety and also the availability when world cruising, more and more full time live aboard’s are opting for this. I think it would be a beneficial plan for Excess to consider having this option.
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ja suppo
10 décembre 2022
Mais pas seulement se passer du gaz à bord pour la cuisine mais aussi de l essence pour le HB avec une annexe équipée d un moteur électrique type Torqeedo qu on peut recharger sur le parc de batteries lithium fer phosphate du cata. sécurité accrue et également plus d'autonomie pour le dessal, la clim.... Il faut 4 batteries x 200 A et 2 onduleurs de 3000 W (2 pour la redondance). recharge solaire et au cas ou un petit Ficher P a vitesse variable tres léger. Une bonne architecture énergie!
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KST
26 juin 2022
I consider induction cooking to be an important innovation because it is also relevant to safety. Burns and fires on board become less likely.
In addition, the expense of procuring propane gas is completely eliminated.
The compatibility problems of the bottles and connections in different regions of the world will then be a thing of the past!
An important selling point for an Excess catamaran, in my opinion! :-)
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Enjoy catamaran
18 juin 2022
L’intérêt du gaz, il me semble c’est le gain de poids et la fiabilité: vues les puissances nécessaires pour les plaques induction (et vitro) c’est dommage si il faut ajouter un groupe électrogène (bruit, entretien, volume, poids...) pour pouvoir cuisiner ?
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Christophe DENIS
10 juin 2022
Je pense qu'une option incluant plaque induction et four multifonction (grill + micro-ondes) devrait aussi inclure un parc conséquent de batteries LifePo + système de rechange ad'hoc. Dans ce cas je pense que cette option devrait intéresser un nombre plus important de futurs acquéreurs. Beaucoup d'entre nous upgradons nos bateaux pour avoir une installation électrique plus performante. Ce serait plus écologique d'avoir une option que de modifier et jeter du matériel neuf...
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Christophe DENIS
6 juin 2022
Excellente idée !!! Pour notre prochain bateau c'est une demande non négociable de mon épouse!!!
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Hiroshi Hamada
17 mai 2022
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Hiroshi Hamada
17 mai 2022
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thierry van doninck
17 mai 2022
Hello,

I think the move towards electrical systems is out there. Especially amongst the lifeaboard cruisers. Having to remove the gas system from a brand new boat and replacing it with electrical could be the difference between buying and not buying. As I hate the garbage can with a vengance as well.

Kind regards
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Sail Tahiti
16 mai 2022
Hello everyone. This could be a very interesting option and we have studied it with one of our client. The main advantages on top of the comfort you get with induction cooking is that you get rid of the gaz bottles. These tend to rust, they are heavy to carry and dangerous. Yet it requires significant investment as you need a large lithium battery pack and a very powerful inverter...if you make that investment for other reasons (weight saving and ease of use for lithium) then it can make sense to add the induction stove...
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arvkv
16 mai 2022
Hi Thibaut, A significant amount of cruisers would be open to moving to an electric galley. This does require moving to Lithium-ion + Solar but that is not something that needs to be offered by the yard. Only change needed is perhaps an upgraded 3000w inverter instead of the regular 2000w. In the Excess owners forum I already saw a few people replacing the brand new gas system with electric and I would be open to this as well.
Example of Bosch induction plate on excess 11. https://tinyurl.com/23cj6raw
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Ruppmic
16 mai 2022
Hi Thibaut, Also we are looking for a electric cooking option. Of course this needs Lithium batteries and some solar or Generator. We believe this is quite standard for a cruising catamaran these days. We would hate to take out the brand new factory offered Gas solution after delivery.
When it comes to the ‘pick up rate’, I guess this largely depends on your target market. Charter companies will probably avoid the additional cost. Live aboards might be more open.

Best,

Michael
Thibaut
Thibaut
16 mai 2022
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Hello Arvkv,

Indeed we have a few clients who chose to install electric cooking systems on board their Excess catamarans. This requires to add power in terms of additional batteries, a genset and/or solar panels. And obviously leads to incremental costs.

Today, at Excess we offer a microwave option but no other electric cooking appliances.
I am open to add more options in principle, but when doing so we need to be sure that a fair number of our clients do chose these options. We call this the 'take-rate', and we typically need at least 20% to 30% of our boats fitted with the options offered on our pricelist.

My feeling is that we would not get enough clients chosing induction cooktop or other electric to reach a minimum take-rate. But I may be wrong and am therefore very interested to know what kind of demand there is out-there for such options!

To all Lab Members: please let us know, through posting a comment here, if you would be keen to purchase an electric cooking options (if so, which one) when ordering one of our boat.

Thanks.
Thibaut
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Alan O Reilly
16 mai 2022
I would be interested but obviously price would be important
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john
16 mai 2022
All electric is more sustainable, safer, and allows more independence but would require an integrated system. Besides more solar and upgraded Li batteries, replacement of a genset with charging alternators and hydropower would be helpful. These systems are slowly making their way into the market and I’d like to see Excess be part of the movement.
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Franciscoxpl@gmail.com
18 mai 2022
If Excess is aiming for the high end/ high tech consumer and willing to offer more comfort and safety for them, electric cooking is a major and very desirable upgrade, and installing at the yard will surelly be better and less expensive. Life onboard is so much better with this option!
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KST
26 juin 2022
It depends on TCO , how many owners would choose that option.
You get a lot of advantages for the money:
- no more bottles/rust/ refill efforts/gas costs / compatibilty problems / open and close the bottle
- more safety (burns / explosions / injures)
Compared to the overall price of the boat this should be worth additional costs of up to 5.000 EUR.
And probably brings you a unique selling point for Excess Catamarans !
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Roberto
1 juillet 2022
Hi, in our new 14 excess we would really consider to built a electric boat: engines, coking, air con , lithium batteries etc. Charging system like gen set and solar panels. I am sure that Excess will prepare a full electric integrated system for us. I think that sailors that choose a cat are eco/silent/more power independent as possible.
Am I wrong? More money today, more happy for years to come!
Roberto
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SVenjoy
14 octobre 2022
Have been using a single induction burner on my Lagoon 421 religiously now for three years. Would love a 2 burner induction option!
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One-Prop
28 octobre 2022
We are in the process of decided which vessel we will be purchasing in the next year or two and one of the things we have been looking at is if electric stovetops are available. we would prefer this over propane or other combustion cooking.
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Michael H
5 décembre 2022
Hi Thibaut,

When my wife and I were deciding on options for our Excess 14, we were disappointed not to be able to choose an electric galley. We would prefer not to have propane in the galley at all. Particularly with the efficiency of induction hobs, electric seems to make more sense than propane, for safety, ecological, and convenience reasons. (When cruising, finding different propane tanks in each country is a pain.) We are already adding solar and lithium, so we should have enough power for electric appliances. We were advised that we could find an aftermarket provider in Les Sables-d’Olonne to rip out the propane appliances and put in electric ones and we did consider that. But it seems to be a crazy expense to have to pay for appliances twice, so now we will probably keep the propane, as a back-up, and mainly use a portable induction plate and an electric combo oven. We’ll see how that works out for us, but I do recommend that you offer an electric galley as an option in the future. In my discussions with other manufacturers before deciding on Excess, I was told that a majority of private buyers are requisition electric galleys.
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SunChallenger
20 février 2023
We are replacing the propane burner with induction right after delivery of an 11 in April 2023 so you can add one more to the list. Will also aftermarket install large lithium bank to support it.
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Peter W.
6 décembre 2023
I'm fitting induction on my new 11