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SURVEY: TO BED OR NOT TO BED ?

SURVEY:  TO BED OR NOT TO BED ?

Today, we are going to open a topic that is likely to spark debate : the choice of the bed, and more specifically its shape.

When designing the cabins of our catamarans, a crucial question arises : should we use the entire available space to maximize the size of the double bed, or should we leave passages on each side for what is called an 'Island Bed'?

No Shakespearean dilemma here, rest assured. After all, this choice is only possible thanks to the generous space offered by Excess catamarans.

On the Excess 11, we opted for beds that occupy the entire width of the hull.

The result : impressive dimensions for a 38-foot catamaran. The bed in the owner’s cabin to starboard, for example, measures 2 m x 2 m.

Owner's Cabin Excess 11

On the Excess 14, with more space on board, we have favored Island Beds.

These beds, accessible from both sides, allow for easy movement around and making the bed without gymnastics. There are also real bedside tables to place a book, phone, or water bottle before falling asleep. The dimensions then become more « standard » at 1.60 m x 2 m, similar to what you might find in a house, after all.

Owner's Cabin Excess 14 

As for the Excess 13, it’s a compromise: Island Beds for the owner’s cabin to starboard and the aft cabin to port, but beds that occupy the entire width at the front where the hulls narrow for better passage through the waves.

So, dear Lab members, it's your turn. Do you prefer an Island Bed, accessible from both sides, or a maximized bed that extends to the hull sides, prioritizing width ?

Get typing ! Share your thoughts in the comments and help our design team create the cabins of your dreams.

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Tom
March 4, 2025
1 answer
Definitely the maximized bed, at
least for the owners cabin. It is one of the reasons why we love the Excess 11 cabins.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 5, 2025
Hello Tom, I completely agree, the 2x2m bed in the owner’s cabin is definitely a big plus, with the spacious bathroom.
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PJ
March 4, 2025
1 answer
Island Bed, much easier to keep made up, and looking nice.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 5, 2025
Hello PJ, in terms of practicality, there’s no debate – I agree.
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DAYE
February 2, 2025
1 answer
Island bed c'est mieux, mais 1,6 de large ce n'est pas suffisant donc la solution du 11 avec 2x2 est meilleure à cause de la largeur du lit.
L'optimum Island bad 2x1,8 !
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 5, 2025
Bonjour Daye, merci pour votre commentaire. En effet ce serait bien de prendre le meilleur des deux solutions. Mais est-ce que la largeur de coque le permettrait?
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Roy
January 21, 2025
1 answer
Roy & Vicki - Excess 13 customers
Can the Excess Lab show us a picture of what is underneath the bed? To Jan's point - does the Excess 13 aft beds hinge to access underneath? Is there a hydraulic ram? Is there space underneath for ducting hot air heating? Because all these things are more important than the small inconvenience of not being able to walk around an island bed. The side shelves are important so we would prefer a wider mattress that occupies all the space between the side shelves. The side shelves can also hinge open for storage underneath. For a very good design look back at the Beneteau Swift 34 Trawler main cabin which has shelves and opening cabinets either side of a full width bed.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 14, 2025
Hello Roy and Vicky, thank you for your response and congratulations – you will be among the first owners of the Excess 13! Indeed, there is access, but there are no hydraulic ram; it’s through hatches. In the port-side aft berth, there is a very large space underneath. As for the heating system installation, it will depend on the model. I believe you can discuss this with your Excess dealer. See you soon aboard your E13!
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Roy
January 21, 2025
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Jan
January 20, 2025
1 answer
Mulan, Excess 14 Hull #73
I really do like the island bed configuration better than I originally thought I would. But in my eyes the Excess 14 is lacking of cabinet space in the 4 cabin version. I would like to have a bed, which offers better accessible space underneath. It is really much work to put away the matraces, the slatted frame, the covers, etc. to reach into the storage below. This process makes this storage space unusable for daily items. Maybe a single sided bed with a cabinet on the other side with shelfs, etc. would be the best compromize. Think about bookshelves, drawers for all the little items. We do usually not use the pockets much.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 14, 2025
Thank you very much for your feedback, Jan. Your idea of a hybrid setup with a shelf on one side and a bed on the other is quite innovative. In any case, thank you for sharing these insights and your feedback on the usage, which is very valuable to us.
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François
January 17, 2025
2 answers
Bonjour à tous,
De notre côté, nous avons nos habitudes de terrien qui sont 200x200 ou 180x200. Nous avons choisi le 14 et nous avons trouvé dommage que le lit des cabines arrière soit en 160. Au vu de la place existante, nous aurions préféré un 180. Rajouter 10cm de chaque côté nous semble assez aisé et laisse quand même encore la possibilité de passer sur le côté même si c’est un peu moins loin. Pour le cabines avant il n’y a pas trop le choix et les dimensions actuelles optimisent bien l’espace.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 14, 2025
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Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 14, 2025
Bonjour François, merci pour votre retour et j'espère que votre Excess 14 vous comble. Pour avoir un lit de 180cm, il faudrait effectivement réduire la profondeur des passages de part et d'autre du lit, ce qui rendrait l'accès plus difficile difficile mais c'est un retour intéressant. A bientôt.
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Dids
January 17, 2025
2 answers
Hello. Pour nous island bed définitivement. 1,60 m x 2 m est plus que suffisant et standard. Les accès de côtés sont très pratiques ainsi que les tables de chevet.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 14, 2025
Bonjour Dids et merci beaucoup pour votre retour. Heureux d'apprendre que cette configuration vous plaise. A bientôt.
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Dids
March 14, 2025
Hello, je trouve la configuration du lit du new 41 de FP vraiment très originale et pratique, en légère diagonale. Peut-être une source d'inspiration. :-)
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KelleyP
January 16, 2025
3 answers
We like our 14 configuration, easier to make the bed with the access at the sides, rather than clambering over it. Also standard bedding fits.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 5, 2025
Hello Kelley, in terms of practicality, there’s no debate – I agree. Which sea are you sailing on now ? Best regards.
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KelleyP
March 5, 2025
Bonjour Felix, the boat is now in the Mediterranean Spain, looking forward to our 2025 summer season 😁
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 5, 2025
Amazing! See you at the Excess Campus #3!
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Sail Tahiti
January 16, 2025
1 answer
Hi everyone, based on the realistic assumption that Herve and his team love to innovate, I can only suggest some foldable bedsides : when you put them up you have more bed area but when you want to walk around the bed or simply make the bed you can fold them down.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
February 4, 2025
Or bunk beds like on a Mini 6.50? I can definitely recognize you there, David, and I’m sure Hervé will love it. See you soon in Polynesia aboard an Excess!
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brydanger
January 16, 2025
1 answer
We actually like both/either of the options on the XCS.
Its the "cutout" versions we've experienced on other boats that we're less fond of (requiring special mattresses and sheetsets, more difficulty in making the bed, etc).
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 14, 2025
Thank you for your feedback, and see you soon aboard your Excess!
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Tony
January 16, 2025
1 answer
On the 14 we suggest a partial island berth. We find the present ’island’ berth too difficult to walk beside and the floor by the outer hull is very weak and creaks a lot. Also cleaning in this very cramped side of the berth is a nuisance.
A partial island will give a bit more width and will be more solid.
Another thing we find is missing from the berths is a surrounding rim that prevents the mattresses from sliding off. It would look much more substantial with a nice wood rim.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
March 14, 2025
Thank you for your feedback, Tony. I’ve noted your points that I will share to the product team.
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Frank P.
January 16, 2025
1 answer
Pas encore propriétaire, on attend le 13 avec impatience… dans tous les catas que l’on a loué, on préfère l’Island bed.
1 pour faire le lit et 2 l’entourage permet parfois un accès avec une petite marche à la hauteur du lit qui n’est pas toujours pratique.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
February 4, 2025
Je vous remercie pour votre retour ! Je comprends votre préférence pour l'Island bed, il est effectivement plus pratique à l’utilisation, notamment pour faire le lit et l'accès facilité. J'espère que l'Excess 13, répondra à vos attentes et n'hésitez pas à venir le découvrir à La Grande Motte en avril prochain.
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Sterkendries
January 16, 2025
1 answer
J'aurai un 14 et je préfère garder le passage latéral.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
February 4, 2025
Bonjour M. Sterkendries,
Effectivement, garder le passage latéral semble plus pratique à l'utilisation, surtout pour la circulation à bord. Félicitations pour votre futur XCS14, et nous espérons que vous en profiterez pleinement !
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S.CAT Good Luck
January 16, 2025
1 answer
We prefer the Maximum bed like on the Excess11 in the Owners Cabin (2m x 2m). It is a shame that on the 13 the bed is so much smaler.
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
February 4, 2025
Thank you for your feedback! Let's say that the bed size on the XCS13 is back to "standard size" for boats, but it’s true that being able to stretch out both ways, lengthwise and widthwise on the Excess 11, can be quite practical at times 😊. We’re happy to hear your thoughts and hope you continue to enjoy your time aboard!
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Les voyages de Skiboo
January 16, 2025
1 answer
Depuis un an nous avons plaisir à naviguer et profiter d'instants à bord de notre XCS11 #151 , pour nous la dimension du lit est très agréable en 2x2 cela dit moins pratique à l'usage pour faire convenablement le lit qu'une version island. Mais ce n'est qu'un bien piètre soucis comparé au plaisir du confort de vie à bord.. et au passage, ça arrange bien nos 4 petits enfants qui adorent squatter le lit de notre cabine lors des sorties familiales..
Felix - The Excess Team
Felix - The Excess Team
February 4, 2025
Bonjour Mme. et Mr. Pilato,
Merci pour votre retour. C’est un plaisir de savoir que le confort à bord et les moments en famille sont au rendez-vous. A très vite.